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Input on the social side of FL MAXUM ownership?

Recall particulars

From our 4100 SCA Master Mariner Robert Cephas
Oil change on Cummins 330B Engines in a 4100 SCA

Washer Dryer in a 4600 SCB, this is a first!

Carbon Monoxide

Photos of the USS Cole

Dash blistering & interior leak

Maxum Gear For Sale:


Just ONE Position for Sports Yachts still open:
4200 SCR
Master Mariners, Product Specialist, Chief of the Boat
You can find your Master Mariners by clicking here
If you own a 4200 SCR and can help your fellow owners let us know.
E-mail us @ billegates@aol.com

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"At sea a fellow comes out.
Salt water is like wine, in that respect."
- Herman Melville
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Here we go.

Business first,

Our Maxum Owners Web Forum now resides "inside" of our website, no more pop ups!
I've split the forum into (2) sections, Maxums 35' to 46' and Maxums Smaller than 35'
Thanks to my son Aaron and a Holiday bribe.

In 2003 we will be listing Maxum boats for sale on the website,
E-mail me for further information.

Yes this is something new, I'm sending this E-mail as a webpage this month.
Some of our owners couldn't get all the graphics and photos, comments to billegates@aol.com

Anyone who missed the download from Sherwood Pumps,
please E-mail me and I will re send it, it's their 17000.PDF
Its 6 pages in length and is for Cummins B series and C series Diesels.

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Input on the social side of FL MAXUM ownership?

Hi Jim,

I appreciate all your hard work in making the Owners Group the success
that it is. I am the owner of a 1999 3700 SCR. As a Minnesota native
who is 60 years old and interested in retiring to Florida, I am
interested to find out if there are group boating activities with other
members of the MAXUM family, such as excursions to the Bahamas, the Keys,
etc. I know the Sea Ray dealers in FL that I have visited really tout
this aspect of owning a Sea Ray. I know your website is more technical
in nature, but I would appreciate your input on the social side of FL
MAXUM ownership.

Thanks, Jim. I'm sending my $75 for membership and look forward to the
association.

Best Regards, mailto:cbiesanz@hbci.com

Charles Biesanz
1628Valley View Drive
Winona MN 55987



No problem Charlie. From my experience the social aspects of boating are served by the local Yacht Club. And if you're moving to Florida you have a vast choice of which ones to choose from. All "Florida Council of Yacht Clubs" are reciprocal, and you "sign" and get billed by your home club. As for Maxum activities, there have been some, but they have been spotty, usually hosted by the selling dealer in the hopes of a new sale. Maxum has done nothing, and I expect that to continue. Their marketing, or lack there of, amazes me. Heres a list of the clubs you want to look into. Jc


Bird Key Yacht Club Sarasota
941-953-4455
Bradenton Yacht Club Palmetto
941-748-7930
Captiva Yacht Club Captiva Island
941-472-4133
Carosel Yacht Club Clearwater
727-446-9162
Charlotte Harbor Y.C. Port Charlotte
941-629-5131
Clearwater Yacht Club Clearwater Beach
727-447-6000
Coral Reef Yacht Club Miami
305-858-1733
Coral Ridge Yacht Club Ft Lauderdale
954-566-7886
Davis Island Yacht Club Tampa
813-251-1158
Eau Gallie Yacht Club Indian Harbor Beach
407-773-2600
The Field Club Sarasota
941-924-1201
The Florida Yacht Club Jacksonville
904-387-1653
Fort Walton Yacht Club Fort Walton
850-243-7102
Halifax River Yacht Club Daytona Beach
904-255-7459
Isles Yacht Club PuntaGorda Island
941-639-1369
Key Biscayne Yacht Club Key Biscayne
305-361-9171
Lake Beresford Yacht Club Deland
904-734-3854
Lauderdale Yacht Club Ft Lauderdale
954-524-5500
Marathon Yacht Club Marathon
305-743-6739
Naples Sailing & Y.C. Naples
941-774-0424
Naples Yacht Club Naples
941-262-6647
Pass-a-Grille Yacht Club St Pete Beach
727-360-1646
Pensacola Yacht Club Pensacola
850-432-7006
Royal Palm Yacht Club FtMyers
941-334-2176
Royal Palm Yacht & CC Boca Raton
407-395-2100
St Augustine Yacht Club St Augustine
904-824-9725
St. Charles Yacht Club Ft. Myers
941-466-2007
St Petersburg Yacht Club St Petersburg
727-822-3873
Sarasota Yacht Club Sarasota
941-365-4191
Smyrna Yacht Club New Smyrna Beach
904-427-4040
Tampa Yacht & CC Tampa
813-831-1611
Tarpon Springs Y.C. Tarpon Springs
727-934-S136
Treasure Island Y.C Treasure Island
727-367-4511
Venice Yacht Club Venice
941-488-7708
Vero Beach Yacht Club Vero Beach
407-231-2211

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Recall particulars

In a message dated 1/9/03 10:29:31 PM, NStaraceII writes:


Hi James,

Went through the 18 pages very carefully. My sincere thanks to you for your work in pulling together what seems to have been a massive effort.

In using the USCG recall database I was able to pick out what I believe to be the only applicable items for my 2000 Maxum 4100 SCB, MXYA02YBD900. They are issues #2 and #3 of recall 020111S. I found this by using MIC BLB. When I inputted MXY, there was nothing listed.

To support the effort I now plan to email US Marine insofar as the areas where I think my boat might be in noncompliance, My only contact is Kenny Richardson the Maxum Parts & Service Mgr. Is there anyone else from US Marine that you suggest that I include?

I'll keep you posted on my progress. The more of us that get behind this, the better.

Regards,
Nick


US Marine/Maxum Marine
dave.crosby@bcfamilyboats.com
mark.paulhus@bcfamilyboats.com
ross.robinson@bcfamilyboats.com
chip.speegle@bcfamilyboats.com
dave.heiss@bcfamilyboats.com
jeff.vaughn@bcfamilyboats.com
jd.sienicki@bcfamilyboats.com
paul.cherney@bcfamilyboats.com
stephen.bohot@bcfamilyboats.com


CC: US Coast Guard, Office of Boating Safety
peikenberry@comdt.uscg.mil
uscginfoline@gcrm.com


CC: ABYC
pras@abycinc.org


CC: BoatU.S.
RRose@BOATUS.com


CC: Maxum Owners Group
BilleGates@aol.com
captainjim@maxumowners.org

Jan 28, 2003
Hello James,

Want to tidy up a couple of loose ends.

First, I have sold the JVC 12-Disc CD Changer. You can therefore delete it from the Maxum newsletter sale listing. I do indeed thank you for your help.

Secondly, you and our fraternity of Maxum brothers should be made aware that I never even got the courtesy of a reply to my October 23, 2002, letter of complaint to Westerbeke. You may recall I wrote them a letter detailing the extensive corrosion I had with the diesel generator enclosure. You were kind enough to publish it. NOT EVEN A REPLY! Tells you a bit about the kind of company we're dealing with doesn't it?

Cheers, Nick

Well, Maxum's not making many of the big boats anymore, and Westerbeke is not supplying gen sets to Maxum. Even so, I agree with you, poor company policy, I'll be down at IBEX in Ft, Lauderdale next week, I'll ask Westerbeke whats up with them. Jc

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From our 4100 SCA Master Mariner Robert Cephas
Oil change on Cummins 330B Engines in a 4100 SCA

BillEGates@aol.com
markrust@logantele.com
robertcephas@snip.net

Mark Rust wrote:
Bob, I have the 330Bs in my 4100 and would like to change the fuel filters. I do not have remote filters so the port side seems like the engine will have to come out first to change the filter. Have you or do you know of anyone that has replaced there port fuel filter? There must be a simple way! Thanks
Mark A. Rust

Hello Mark---The port fuel filter change is a piece of cake. The prerequisites for this job is as follows: assemble your tools and support material to include a proper sized filter wrench, a one gallon empty household plastic bleach bottle with the top cut off, rags to catch any spills, a replacement filter, and if available, a skinny mongoose from Mexico. Practice the filter change on the starboard engine first. The plastic bleach bottle is recommended because it is made of virgin plastic and will not desolve when diesel fuel comes in contact with it. Most plastic bottles or jugs are made of recycled plastic and will not hold up to strong chemicals. Break the filter loose with the filter wrench but don't allow any fuel to leak yet. Remove the filter wrench and slide the plastic jug over the filter to catch spills. Unscrew the filter and let it fall into the jug. Use rags to mop up fuel drips as you remove the jug with the filter in it. Wet the rubber seal on the new filter with oil from the engines dip stick and screw it in place as tight as you can get it by hand. No further tightening is necessary. To complete this job on the port engine is more difficult because you are going to have to squeeze into the compartment forward of the port engine and reach around the outboard side of the port engine to complete the filter change. With a little practice, you will find this job is not so bad. While you are wedged into the compartment forward of the port engine, inspect the three brackets that hold the engines belt cover in place. Look for cracks along the brackets. This is a common problem with the Cummins diesels and if cracks are evident on either engine, Cummins will replace the belt covers at no charge to you. Call me at (302)368-1467. many, many more checks, inspections and adjustments should be done if you are into your periodic maintenance cycle.

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Washer Dryer in a 4600 SCB, this is a first!

Hi ya, James thought you'd probably like an up date ,,,, basically the boat although new had several jobs to do under "warranty work" and a few that I wanted in addition,,, nothing spectacular except perhaps the washing machine.... Basically the lazarrette needed re-flooring generator re-positioning and washer/dryer installing the cost at present I'm not quite sure as I have not received my invoice (I will scan in and forward it on) but for those who wish to enquire could contact Gene weeks @ thundermarine on 727 391 3848 The washer dryer was purchased via the web www.compactappliances.com and cost $679.00 instalation was estimated at $1,000 if it keeps the wife happy then so be it!
flying out in two weeks!

We decided to name our 4600SCB LE "Duty Free"

Trev,,, trev@computronx.com

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New Master Mariners this month, its a record 5 new Master Mariners

All Around Mercury/Maxum Master - Don Main, provides service on all model Maxum's and knows the ins and out of the whole line of boats. Don has offered to help owners directly on his own time. "All I want to do is to be able to help out fellow Maxum boat lovers." Contact Don @ mercruis2y@videotron.ca

3200 SCR - Dennis Lilly, is from Daytona Beach, FL and owns a 1996 3200 SCR with twin 454 Bravo ll Merc Cruisers, Dennis is in the process of rebuilding his 3200 for an extended Bahamas trip for the Summer of 2003. DLilly@vision-hr.com

3100 SCR - Don Gillis, hails from Newport Beach, CA and owns "Rosa Bella" a 3100 SCR with Central Heat & Air, and twin Mercruser 5.0 Bravo II's. "I am familiar with my new 3100 SCR and intend to become the master of my boat by networking and sharing information. I am certainly not the most experienced 3100 owner, but I can make it up in enthusiasm and diligence. don@gillisarchitects.com

3000 SCR - Richard Kolbe, Rich own "Breakin' Wind" a 1998 3000 SCR with twin 305 mercs-Bravo II's. Rich boats almost all of the Chesapeake and Delaware Bays. I have learned much about my boat and I consider it a perfect fit for my needs. Let me know how I can help your organization. maxum30@fcc.net

2500 SCR - Rudy Ringel, Rudy is a year-round boater from McKinney, TX., north of Dallas & Owns "Giddyup" a 2001 - 26' cruiser with a 5.0 MPI Bravo-I & kept in the fresh water "Lake Texoma" year round. ringel5@attbi.com

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How to launch a PWC

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Latent Defect

Latent defect, A hidden or dormant defect in a product that cannot be discovered by observation or a reasonably careful inspection.

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Carbon Monoxide

There is a bit of a myth that diesel engines do not create Carbon monoxide. Complete combustion would give Carbon Dioxide, water, some particulate matter, and some nitrides of ox gen. Unfortunately there is no engine with complete combustion and some C O is produced by all internal combustion engines. Generally gas engines produce more CO-one of the reasons a diesel normally produces less CO is that there is higher air flow and more efficient use of fuel. However if a diesel is air restricted or fuel rich in its set up, it will produce significant amounts of CO. Also remember than Carbon Monoxide binds with the hemoglobin in the human blood and displaces oxygen--and this is what causes death. The CO accumulation can be very slow. I have seen and treated a number of cases of both acute and chronic CO poisoning--including in cigarette smokers and people who lived near the Los Angles Freeways-(always live on the water side of PCH, since the normal Westerlies blow the smog--and CO into the interior of the Los Angeles Basin.)

An example three years ago was where we were on a cruise and several of the boats left their gensets on, to run the Air Conditioners. All of the boat owners were on my boat and we heard an alarm going off. We took off in the skiff to find out what was wrong. It turned out it was a genset where the exhaust hose had come loose, and the Carbon Monoxide detector had gone off! There was a dog aboard--and he had gone into the aft cabin where he had found a window open. Three of went aboard. We were not able to stop the genset with the remote (water on the controls relay)-I have cardiac disease and had a slight head ache and angina in about 3 minutes. (First thing I did was get the dog out). The owner stayed out for another 5 minutes but was concerned with water and soot damage, so he went back in and went it to the engine room to cut the air supply to the genset. He had moderate symptoms of acute Carbon Monoxide poisoning, which resolved in the next few hours by themselves.

The key here is that low concentrations--even those in proximity to the freeways--or people in traffic--will have a rise in C O levels.

To answer your questions--a diesel is retaliatively safer--however any boat should have carbon monoxide detectors. Some of the older sensors are more sensative--and a less sensitive unit was substituted because of "false alarms" answered by fire departments and paramedics. (changed in 1997, so probably none of the old standard units are still available).....C O detectors wear out and should be replaced every few years. Carbon monoxide is cumulative, so a detector that measures that total accumulation is essential.

I personally do not leave a boat with a genset running. I also will cool the boat down before I go to sleep. If I wake up hot at night--I turn on the fans and open the hatches (with screens). More common causes of C O poisoning are charcoal burning heaters or barbecues, furnaces, open space heaters, open flames, such as a gas or propane stove, or wood fires in unventilated areas.

For a brief review of detectors go to :
http://www.consumersearch.com/www/house_and_home/carbon_monoxide_detectors/fullstory.html

Bob Austin M D thataway4@cox.net
Pensacola, FL
(Bob is not a maxum owner but he consent to have his information reprinted here.)

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Photos of the USS Cole

http://www.pianoladynancy.com/recovery_usscole.htm

From: Bob Jeglum mailto:lovekiwi@inwave.com

Very nice Bob, I had clippings sent to me of the Cole as it was unloaded in Newport, RI, my old home town. Jc

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West Marine buys BoatUS

"West Marine buys BoatUS", Ron Radford gave me a call and shared this information with me. Thanks Ron.

BoatUS is actually 2 differant companies, there is BoatUS the store and BoatUS the foundation, the store was sold. The foundation remains. The President of BoatUS just got elected to the board of the ABYC. You can see more about this at the BoatUS website
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Dash blistering & interior leak

Hi Jim,

I've spoken with you before. Enjoyed meeting you in Miami two years ago. I'm planning on going this year, will you be there? My boat is back in Stuart this year at the Hinckley yard in the Manatee Pocket.

I have two issues that have been bothering me that I want to ask you about:

1. We have spoken before and I know that most owners are putting up with the pitted dash/corrosion problem. Well last year I had to replace the right lower panel to accommodate a new Northstar 951 GPS (a really great unit by the way I never did like the Raytheon 620). Well anyway, when we cut the panel for the GPS, which cost $250 from Maxum, we were very careful to coat all the edges, including the screw hole openings. Well even with that and with this being a new and improved panel, it now has the same signs of bubbling etc. in just about one year. Remember also that this is a fairly well protected location.

I was helping a friend transport a 40' SeaRay, and noticed his woodgrained dash panels were fiberglass. Do you know anyone who has replaced the panels with fiberglass, or an electronics installer in South Florida who might do a job like that? I'm really sick of this problem, and I want to do something to permanently fix it.

Also, I have never been a big fan of the flat switches that they use. They seem to be real vulnerable to spray. Any idea about a more seaworthy switch that I could use as long as I'm planning on tackling this project?

On a somewhat related topic, I'm getting real tired of looking at those Taylor window trim pieces that have the same bubbling up of their baked powder finish. Have you tackled refinishing those? Looks like a scrape and refinish project I guess.

2. I have been putting up with a leak into the cabinet in the galley along the port side of the boat. It's in one of the upper cabinets with the door that has the hinges on the bottom. I keep coffee cups there, and they always seem to collect fresh water. Have you heard of anyone with this problem who may have traced down the source of the leak?

Like you, I really like this boat and intend to keep it for quite some time.

Best regards,
Bob Gray

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For Sale:
Boats...

Yes you can list your boat for sale on the Maxum Owners Website, if you a paid member its free. Send me your description and particulars, photos if you have them or we can use stock photos.
Jim Clausen mailto:billegates@aol.com

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For Sale:

I have for sale a Bare Radar Wing that will fit a 1997 to 1998 Maxum 4600 SCB (probably up to a 2000) I am told that a new one would be in excess of $4,000.00 I am willing to sell it for $1,500.00
Contact Joseph Savione, POB 962 Gloversville NY 12078, ph 518-725-5145 salvione@salvione.com

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